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UFC President Dana White Sounds Off On Need For Judge and Ref Reform In MMA


“I’ve said it many times, in the evolution of the sport right now, one of the big problems that we have is judging and ref’ing. It’s one of the things that drive me crazy.

Attention needs to be paid to scoring and ref’ing. First of all it affects guys careers as far as legacy’s go. Jon Jones should be undefeated right now but he’s not he has a loss on his record and there are tons of guys in the UFC that have those. There are guys that have absolutely, sincerely won fights but lost them on the judges’ scorecards.

Nobody is perfect, there is always going to be problems but the judging and the ref’ing is so bad in Mixed Martial Arts, it drives me crazy and the fans hate it too. These athletic commissions really need to tighten up and start educating their refs and judges.”

UFC president Dana White publicly addressed the problem with MMA judging and refereeing last night on FUEL TV.

Everyone knows that a change needs to be made on both fronts. More often than not, the officials call the action right, but there are glaring holes in the way officials institute the unified rules of Mixed Martial Arts.

Can Dana and the UFC lead the way and fix the issues or will these problems plague the sport for years to come?

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36 Comments to UFC President Dana White Sounds Off On Need For Judge and Ref Reform In MMA

  1. Brandon Wheaton says:

    Truth!

    • Dana needs to just say what’s on his mind…….we need these judges to start picking the fighter that is swinging for the fences and not for the technical fighter…I needs these guys to stop being martial artist and start being more like street fighters that way more get interested and i can real in the cash baby…

  2. James Troy says:

    looks like dana reads my blog. pretty much recited everything i wrote word for word.

  3. Johannes says:

    Im glad Dana brings this up cuz it really affects too much not to be talked about and done something about. Dana White is the best man to lead the UFC for real !

  4. CCW.Gun control=Government control. says:

    Jone Jones lost because he threw illegal elbows. Not because of a decision. He threw them and damaged Matt Hammil enough that he was not allowed to continue. Sure he would have ended up destroying Hammil, no doubt by anybody there. But the judges had nothing to do with him losing that fight…

    Am I correct or am I just confused?

    • Frankie says:

      your right but that rule on those elbows being illegal is stupid

    • Turkeykneck fun chav says:

      well it should have been no contest. it was purely accidental

    • JB Spencer says:

      Thats why he said judges and ‘refs’. The ref ended up giving him the lose, and ur rite those wer illegal elbows but the point is that jones was the better fighter regardless and the beter fighter shouldnt get the L . Ask matt hamill who won that fight.

      Prolly shoulda been a no contest.

    • Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

      Idk about a NC for those illegal strikes to the eyes. These aren’t your regular elbow strikes and its not a kick to the balls either. He deserved what he got.

  5. Drew Rivera says:

    I wonder if this is a pun towards the nick diaz and carlos condit fight..

  6. Xaninho says:

    Judges decisions in every sport are often questionable. I mean Pacquaio didn’t really deserved the win that last fight did he?

    Anyway, they should be educated about the valuation they give to the different techniques and actions in MMA. LnP should get stood up faster. Take downs are worth nothing if there’s nothing following up. Like give the fighters 30 seconds or even a minute to follow up with some sort of technique, but if it’s turning into LnP and exceeds the time mark..stand them up.

    It seems that fighters can be inactive for most of the round and get picked apart standing up, then get one late take down and steal the round in the eyes of the judges.

    • JB Spencer says:

      For the most part +1

      However, i think a takedown should score, but if the downed fighter gets back up it should score equally, if not more. And in and of itself, the guard position should be considered nuetral and scoreing should depend on what each fighter is actually doing.
      EXAMPLE: bisbing v sonnen – chael gets a td and a mount, bisbing hits two hip escapes (fkn beutifull) geting to full guard and then back to his feet; on that exchange bisbing should hav come out on top score wise or equal at the very least. I dont think most judges even know what a hip escape is, let alone the significance it can have.

      You should have to be edjucated in mma/bjj and have to pass some kinda test before you can be an mma judge.

  7. Stevo the great says:

    Herb Dean and Big Jon McCarthy! Best refs in the business!!!!! So just fire the rest especially heart boy Yves Laving.

  8. Carlos Condit says:

    I love balls in my mouth.

  9. Sam Hounsell says:

    Good man Dana! Make sure you are heard though. More ex-fighters are needed for judging.

  10. learntoread says:

    Amen.

  11. GreenTeaBagger says:

    Perhaps they need to change the “No Contest” to “Mercy Stoppage”

  12. ThaGreenBandit says:

    We’ve heard this so many times, when the fuck are the changes gonna be made. There’s a problem, fix it!

  13. Jujitsu Player says:

    That Jones fight with Matt Hamill was brutal, Mazzagatti should have stopped it way before Jones hit him with an illegal blow, i thought Hamill was going to die, he had blood seeping out of his eyes…couldn’t believe it when he got DQ’d. They asked Hamill if he could continue….yeah no shit he couldn’t continue he’d just taken about 100 elbows to the face. Pretty sure it wasn’t the last 2 that finished him off….Sooner the UFC gets properly trained refs the better.

  14. Captain Moroni says:

    Bring back the old school no rounds. That will eliminate the judges and have fighters prepare for fights differenty. How many fighters have been saved by the bell? 2,678 thats how many. Not that I’m counting.

  15. waitwtfffwtfwtf says:

    Isn’t the reason that rule exists is because officials saw videos of people breaking huge stacks of bricks with the downward elbow. Haven’t they seen the video of people breaking the same huge stacks of bricks with downward punches? Besides, breaking the bricks relies heavily on technique. Almost any mma fighter would hurt themselves before breaking through a full stack of bricks with any strike, until they trained the technique they wouldn’t be able to do it

  16. DudeIncognito says:

    Simple solution: Get rid of Judges. Can only win by Sub or KO, if no one wins by the end of 3 rounds (or 5), its a draw. This will result in good f’in fights. Fighters are gonna know there is no winning by points, so they won’t take that route. And fighters that are clearly winning, won’t relax and not make the effort to finish.

    Think of the Diaz – Condit fight: Condit would never have taken the safe route. Sure he may have used the same tactics for awhile to try and weaken Diaz, but at some point he would have needed to explode and try something else.

    I hate to say it, but I even think Diaz didn’t make a stronger effort in the last 2 rounds because he *thought* he was ahead in points. He even said as much when he stated: “You think I wouldn’t have finished that arm lock if I even thought I wasn’t going to win.”

    Remove points and fights will get way better.

    • Thurgood Jenkins says:

      That actually seems to be the most sensible idea I’ve heard thus far. The only problem is that there are some fights require a winner because of the rankings within the division and things like that. If you have two guys going against each other to determine the #1 contender and they fight to a draw, who gets the next shot? Otherwise, I think your idea is incredibly plausible.

      • DudeIncognito says:

        Yeah, that’s a good point. I think in that situation though, I would rather see a rematch than have one fighter fight for points and move into the #1 contender spot. You know? If neither fighter can actually finish their opponent, then do they deserve to move up to #1 contender?

        But yeah I can see your point in that then the champ might be waiting months and months to defend his title.

        Still, it’s not perfect but I think it would be better than the way things are. A lot better fights anyway.

  17. T.J. says:

    I say if the other guy doesn’t tap or go to sleep then it’s a draw!

  18. SCOTT ANDREW DAVIES-KUSHLICK says:

    I love all the people saying about how there should be no judges, this is what BJ penn was saying years ago (also said about getting rid of weight classes aswell aha) in a interview with that english MMA reporter. I can’t acutualy find it on youtube now but if you get a chance anyone, WATCH IT! is my fave Penn interview. and for the issue of importent matches drawing after 3 rounds… well seing as all main events are now 5 rounds you could just make all next shot matches the same(as they are mainly main or atlest co-main event anyway. and if you can’t finish an opponent in 25 mins then im not entierly sure you deserve a shot to be fair and you just rematch if it was just that close and a war that is fair you couldent finish or get 2 new people but the original 2 still maintain fair status based on the fight and former rank. And of cource you could just add like a 2 round overtime in the first fight if you wanted to be fair. I think my ideas are fairly cool but if they will be implemented who knows. lots of legal shit with needing the athletic bodys for mma being regulated or something like that and esc shit bla.

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