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Wednesday, 01/04/2012, 06:00 am

UFC NEWS – Lesnar Told JDS That The Knees and Kicks Of Overeem Are What Took Him Out


“I thought Brock would move forwards, I hoped more of him. But he told me on the octagon he felt the knees and kicks of Overeem and that he thought he broke his rib. I saw it and it was really red. He told me the last couple destabilized him, and then he wished me good luck on this title defense and that was it. He’s completely right to retire since he doesn’t feel fine when fighting anymore. He said he promised it to his wife and kids… I guess everybody knows when it’s time to stop… Each fight is different and you gotta be prepared for your next opponent the best way you can. I got to the title with much effort and I’ll do my best to remain as the champion. Overeem is a very strong fighter, but there’s no easy fight when you’re fighting a title fight. He’s big, but he ain’t two.”

Heavyweight champion, Junior Dos Santos, told Brazilian media outlet, Tatame.com about his discussion with Brock Lesnar following last week’s UFC 141 event.

Now scheduled to face Overeem at a yet to be determined event, Junior Dos Santos will attempt to take out arguably the best striker in MMA and prove that his boxing is superior to the K-1 Grand Prix champions.

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72 Comments to UFC NEWS – Lesnar Told JDS That The Knees and Kicks Of Overeem Are What Took Him Out

  1. who cares says:

    he might be the best heavyweight striker.. but i think anderson silva is still the best mma striker..

    • IknowMMA says:

      Hahaha I don’t know man who are you to make suck a blunt statement?!? His striking coach? Keep it to yourself JDS is an amazing striker too! Who is the best!? Is yet to known so shhhhhh

  2. David says:

    Jds needed brock to tell him that reems knees and kicks took him out? It looked to me like reem was only throwing knees and kicks anyway, what else was supposed to take him out?

    • IknowMMA says:

      Shut up kid

      • GRT 3000 says:

        why don’t you add something to the discussion or stfu clown.

        Hey @David, I think Reem was targeting Lesnar’s stomach b/c of the surgery. I wish Brock would have shot for the double leg, then we would’ve had more of a fight.

        • Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

          You 100% correct, someone pointed that out to me work. It’s unfair to say he threw in the towel and I believe his condition, lack or intestines and strikes to the stomach did him in. But, like you said he should have just gone for broke and went for those takedowns even if it meant a knee to the face. I would if I was and it meant not getting pummeled by a K1 striker.

        • GRT 3000 says:

          yeah letting a K-1 champ target practice was a knockout waiting to happen. He would have been much better off timing a double leg.

        • Will says:

          Yeah…. I actually had the same surgery Brock had in September. I don’t know how the guy was even cleared to fight 7 months later. It’s definately a harsh thing and I can tell you from experience even light boxing that a shot to my body IMMEDIATELY makes my hands go to my waist side and become defensive. Brock is definitely a super athlete to go through the fight at such a rapid timeframe. But kudos to Reem. Excited to see him and JDS tear the octagon up. It will certainly be the best heavyweight striking matchup they could muster up.

      • David says:

        Shut up faggot

  3. jon says:

    JDS will show reem who’s the boss!

  4. Xaninho says:

    It’s time for a new Dutch UFC champion.

    I like JDS alot as well, so I hope he won’t get hurt or injured, but I’m more and more convinced Overeem will win the title.

    Dutch Muay Thai is considered to be amongst the best stand-up fighting styles worldwide. Maybe even THE best stand-up fighting style..

    • Thomas says:

      Dutch Muay Thai and a lot of muscle! I hope for a defence of the title, but i think JDS is going to be smashed to pieces.

      The only thing that gives me a little hope is Lesnars signature crumple everytime someone bitchslaps him. Lesnar is at big and scary dude but he becomes a boyscout when somebody hits him hard.

      • GRT 3000 says:

        Lesnar? u mean Reem…?

        • Thomas says:

          No, I actually meant Lesnar but understand why you ask, now that I have read my post again ;)

          My point was that Overeem made Lesnar look like a boy scout having a bad dream. But it is very Brock-like when an opponent hits him hard and therefore need not be an expression of Overeems general abilities.

          I hope so. Otherwise, he’s is going to go directly through JDS!

        • GRT 3000 says:

          oh ic. gotcha; yeah that makes sense now.

    • Alice says:

      The Dutch Muay Thai fighting style is good in fact it’s rated at no.3 in the world. Behind the Thai of course and the Australians.

    • effyocouch says:

      Dutch muay Thai? Dutch kickboxing is more like it. Muay Thai is from Thailand. Two different ends of the big island.

      However, my two cents in this thread is that I love both fighters, a lot. They are both likeable, respectful guys who bring their A game every time. I think this is simply gonna be a fight of who wants it more, in which case I’m leaning a little more towards JDS. Plus, knowing that Overeem has such devastating power, maybe we’ll finally see some of those JDS ground skills.

      • Mach00man says:

        There is a difference, however slight. Sort of like there is a difference between Jujitsu and Brazilian Jujitsu. We all know that Brazilian Jujitsu isn’t from Brazil.

  5. Casey Gapol says:

    really cuz i thought it was that dutch accent that took lesnar out

  6. Jmad says:

    still cant pick a winner

  7. Dude says:

    GO JDS !!! This is gonna be a hell of a fight, but i dont see Junior lose this one. Hes gonna TKO Overeem. I mean look at the opponents JDS had since his loss to ferreira. Some of the best Heavyweights in the world. I cant say the same thing about overeem’s winning streak opponents unfortunatly. I’m not saying he doesnt stand a chance and had sucky opponents, but its less impressive (yes he did dominate most of them, but so does JDS). Gonna be a sick fight

  8. Zach says:

    Muay Thai ftw. K1>Boxing

    • Nate Diaz says:

      Tell that to Donald Cerrone

      • DKAVA says:

        +1
        JDS is going to defend. If you have a good muay thai base, you can defend well. Also, don’t be suprised for JDS to pull out a little grappling in this one. Also, Zach, Reem fights Dutch style. Not muay thai.

        Lesnar should never have come back. Either not that soon or at all. Reem hasn’t proven anything to me yet as far as the UFC goes.

  9. repairman jack says:

    jds is different to the strikers reem is used to fighting k1 is mostly muay thai guys they tend to stand on front of each other and trade , imo jds is the most mobile heavey weight out there (notable mention to cain velasquez) his mixture of speed , footwork and head movement will make him tough to hit i can see him getting the ko in the later rounds when reem will fade ….jds by ko or tko

  10. dummyman says:

    I think if JDS avoids the clench, it’s game over for Overeem. If JDS is looking to counter at all, it will wind up in clench and be eating lots of knees. It’s going to be a short fight faux sho!!!!!

  11. JDSleghumper says:

    lets not forget that overeem has 9 total career knock out losses ladies and gentleman 6 in mma and 3 in K1 that leaves a good possibility that JDS could KO reem just as easy as reem could him, i really see this as a fight of who gets their shot first but the deeper the fight goes i give the advantage to JDS i think he has a better gas tank but who knows its just my opinion

  12. The natural says:

    No shit

  13. Devilock says:

    In my view, JDS can edge out Overeem. They are both talking about their matchup being primarily stand up, but I think it might go to the ground. Not much has been seen in the UFC of JDS’ ground game. If it goes to the ground, I think Overeem has crushing power for submission, but he may not have the same positional savvy of a BJJ Black Belt.

    Striking is very interesting between these 2. They both have huge punching power, kicks, knees, etc. Overeem has shown what his kicks and knees can do, but was Brock really at 100%? I bet that Brock started to get worried for his colon when he took those shots to the body and was basically ready to give up. Could head movement be a detriment to either fighter? Head movement in boxing doesn’t consider other avenues of attack as much as head movement in Muay Thai.
    I think JDS keeping the pressure on with his hands will be able to hurt Overeeem enough to either stop him or get a takedown.

  14. mike f says:

    I think JDS is actually the better striker. Overeem downturn throw a lot of combos, and throws a lot of haymakers. I think if JDS stays in the pocket he can use his superior speed to pick him apart. Also Overeem has never been known to have a good chin.

  15. SP says:

    People need to stop predicting fights. It could go either way and there’s no sure winner here. Will be a good fight though for sure.

  16. Philly C says:

    i cant really pick who’s going to win, but everyone in my family and friend circle saying overeem is going to SMASH jds i think are out of their minds. can one of em get a quick KO, yea i think so, but to say one of these dudes is going to destroy the other, i don’t see it being a one sided beatdown. i see a knock out or a war. maybe overeem will tap to strikes :p

  17. GRT 3000 says:

    I see the speed of JDS combined with punching power being a big factor here. JDS is a seasoned fighter; this will be Reem’s real introduction to UFC level competition.

  18. JP says:

    Why is Overeem getting a title fight after one fight? Would rather see Velasquez and Mir fight than Alistair fight the winner than get a title shot. JDS will destroy him tho so no worries

  19. Kevin nash says:

    Jds by KO..
    Reem is used goods, Brock was a has been when reem beat him..
    Jds has too much speed and all around ability.. The only heavy weight to challenge him stylistically will be a fully fit Cain..

  20. dave says:

    Lesner hung with the best of the heavyweight grapplers,then the landscape changed and he was forced to fight the best of the heavyweight strikers which was not his forte

  21. Nat says:

    Well I can’t wait for this one!

  22. Ash says:

    The smell of horsemeat on Reem’s breath took Lesnar out!

  23. maurice says:

    Reem and cain have a similiar striking. I KNO THEY R DIFFERENT, BUT HEAR ME OUT. They r good during there attacks, but when they aren’t on offense they are pretty stationary. Waiting to react to anything there opponent offers. Problem is, YOU DOET WAIT ON JDS! Waiting on jds means ur setting urself up for a ko loss. Scary thing is, if u can find a way to break jds rhythm by brawling..he will oblige. Quickly showing he’s not jus a phenominal striker wit outstanding octagon control. He shows u instantly dat he’s tougher…and that cigano thrives in a dog fight. Jds imo is da best hw off all time in mma. And every fight he looks better. Hell, his knee was badly damaged against cain fukin velasquez. And still managed to top all his previous flawless victories.

  24. Now scheduled to face Overeem at a yet to be determined event, Junior Dos Santos will attempt to take out ARGUABLY THE BEST STRIKER IN MMA and prove that his boxing is superior to the K-1 Grand Prix champions.

    NO ..OVEREEM’S STRIKING IS THE BEST..period!

    • Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

      Bas Rutten on Overeem declaring himself a legend after winning the K1 Grand Prix.

      “And talking about the Grand Prix, let’s face it, he had a great deal of luck as well there. He fought Peter Aerts who had a WAR with Semmy Schilt [previously that night] and was completely banged up, and then he fought [Gokhan] Saki, who had a broken arm AND hand, in the finals! At that moment when you win, you should say: “I’m very happy with the result, the stars were in line for me tonight, I also got a little bit of luck”. Because everybody is going to say that about you anyway, you might as well simply say it yourself to keep the people respecting you, but NOT: “I’m a legend”.

      If you want to read the rest.

      http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/11/16/2566480/ufc-alistair-overeem-bas-rutten-golden-glory

  25. maurice says:

    Put it dis way, I fully believe jds could also be k1 champ.

  26. oj says:

    If JDS needs Lesnar to tell him about The Reem’s Uber Knees of Destruction, then he hasn’t been doing his homework. Anyone who’s followed Overeem for even a little bit knows those knees are his biggest weapons (he even took out the tank-headed Fujita with a knee to the dome). If JDS avoids the clinch, he wins….

  27. KingGareth says:

    JDS isn’t an exceptional fighter, he’s good but no one sees him in the same light as Anderson Silva or GSP. His skill set isn’t there and really if he didn’t land that one shot there’s a good chance he would have lost to Cain. I could be wrong, I haven’t seen JDS entire game yet.

    • You are wrong. He would beat Cain either way.

      • KingGareth says:

        I hope you’re right, I like JDS, and give him mad respect for fighting for a title with a bum knee. He has heart for sure and is a better person than Reem. I would like to see JDS’s ground game against a good wrestler though. I was hoping to see it against Cain…. but we all saw what happened there. JDS has had more legit competition, but i’m still taking Overeem if it stays on the feet. Eitherway an excellent matchup.

  28. eddi says:

    Prodigy Fuckin right on the money

  29. bizzle says:

    A fight against Reem for JDS is just another payday and his first successful title defense..

  30. A.James says:

    Not only is JDS a talented fighter but he is also an intelligent fighter. The man taught himself English and Spanish all at the same time in order to reach out to more fans within a year’s time span while training, fighting, and coaching on TUF. Cain had more tools than JDS but we all saw what happened. JDS Tom him out before Cain had a chance to unleash. I think JDS may not be as talented as Overeem but I think he may be too smart for Overeem. He also has great conditioning which is going to be a problem for Overeem if the fight goes beyond round 2.

  31. Lol beat me to it. Way too many keyboard warriors in 1 thread.

  32. David says:

    You two sound like two elitist pieces of shit to me, im surprised you fags have enough time ,inbetween ass fucking each other, to write smart ass comments and make yourselves try to look cool. The reality is your both losers and 90% of the people here prolly think your dickless goofs.

  33. David says:

    Your still an elitist dickless goof fag sucking your boyfriends dick over there, i see your faggety remarks almost on a daily basis and they wear on my patience. Your nobody in the world of mma so quit acting like you or your opinion on fights or fighters matter ” the real community knows who’s who” shut the fuck up and pull your head out of your own ass for once

  34. David says:

    Prove it or shut the fuck up, regardless of when your on your still a full time asshole when you are on

  35. Mike Diaz says:

    REAL COMMUNITY! PENN TRAINING AND FITNESS!!!!! TEAM PENN!!!!

  36. Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

    Really @Dave, I haven’t seen @forty in a minute. I’m on here every day unless I have to work hella long 12-16hr day.

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