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Wednesday, 11/27/2013, 08:57 am

Joe Lauzon Has A Simple Answer To MMA’s Judging Problem


“Boxing is very straight forward – you hit the other guy until he can’t stand. How do you score this though… two guys fighting, we will call them Apollo and Rocky.

In one round, Apollo lands a TON of punches and while they are starting to take effect, Rocky stays on his feet. Towards the end of the round, Rocky lands a couple HUGE shots, and wobbles Apollo but he doesn’t go down. Now Rocky was getting beat up for 2:45 of a 3:00 round, but landed those huge shots at the end of the round. Who gets the round? Apollo for controlling and winning most of the round, or Rocky for landing the biggest and best shots of the round. It’s a tough decision, but this is just quality versus volume.

Some will say Apollo won the round and some will say Rocky. Its tough to get the same answer from lots of people though, because its subjective and you are comparing apples to oranges.

Now, same thing, Apollo and Rocky fight in an MMA match. Apollo is using his jab and beating up Rocky for most of the round, but towards the end of the round, Rocky shoots a double and works some ground and pound, passes the guard and sinks a read naked choke, but Apollo is saved by the bell. Now you have to compare standup striking and balance that against ground and pound, but also factor in a takedown and a near submission. How many punches did that takedown cancel out? How many did the submission?

Comparing apples to oranges is tough, comparing a grouping of apples, oranges, bananas, pineapples and grapes is even tougher when nothing matches up. Decisions suck. Always fight for the finish, and don’t let someone else have any influence on your winning or losing.”

UFC lightweight and fight night bonus hoarder, Joe Lauzon took to the world renowned Underground forums to give his take (above) on how fighters can fix the terible state of judging in MMA.

The CSAC Executive director recently gave us his take, but now we have Joe’s and honestly the man they call J-Lau, hit the nail on the head.

Care to disagree?

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48 Comments to Joe Lauzon Has A Simple Answer To MMA’s Judging Problem

  1. joe says:

    Live scoring would help in many ways!

  2. Shawn says:

    Many mma fighters are fighting to win on points. I think that’s one of the biggest issues. As Lauzon said, fight to FINISH. Even if it goes to decision, it can work more favorably on the fighter that is trying to finish the fight, rather than trying to win the fight on points.

    Personally, I don’t think those little rabbit punches shouldn’t count in the compubox (which is what these boxing judges in mma use a lot). Only effective and power strikes should count. Set ups don’t count. But the take down does. Aggressiveness should give extra points when it’s close. And apart from octogan control, points should also be given to the one who dictates the pace more. If MMA is going to use boxing judging, there has to be additional points to put one fighter over the other. Not only will this help in controversial decisions, but will also force fighters to actually fight, and not just go for the “W”.

  3. lucas says:

    I think that you can break a round into 3 sections: striking, clinch, and grappling. If you beat your opponent in 2 sections the score for the round is 10-9, if you beat your opponent in 3 sections the score for the round is 10-8

    Let’s say there is a match up of striker vs wrestler. Let’s say the striker wins the striking part, the wrestler wins the wrestling part, then whoever wins the clinch would win the round. The clinch is really a measure of who can implement their gameplan. If the wrestler makes his takedowns and generally wins the clinch then they would win the round. If the striker stuffs takedowns and generally wins the clinch then they would win the round. Obviously you still need judges to compare but you cannot escape that.

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