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Wednesday, 11/02/2011, 08:29 am

Frank Mir Explains Why Overeem Will Lose To Lesnar


“I think basically it comes down to a style fight. If you look at Alistair Overeem he is one of the most decorated strikers we have in the heavyweight division. He’s won the K-1 he is a very strong and powerful striker. That being said, he has to defend the shot of Lesnar and pretty much this is about as close as you can get to a grappler vs. striker and it doesn’t workout for the striker very often. You have a few exceptions to the rule, there is Anderson Silva but if you go on a list where there is 100 strikers and 100 grapplers, 98 of the wrestlers are going to win because they control the position, they are going to get the takedown. That’s why everyone in the UFC is training our wrestling abilities because that dictates where the fight is going to happen whether you want to keep the fight on the feet or you don’t. I don’t see how Alistair is going to stop Lesnars takedown”


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30 Comments to Frank Mir Explains Why Overeem Will Lose To Lesnar

  1. Kevin a says:

    Agreed….

    • Michael says:

      its hard to take someone down when you are constantly backing up.

      • ThaGreenBandit says:

        Not really. A quick change of levels, and you’re right where you need to be. If the wrestler is moving backwards to avoid the strikes, that usually means your opponent is closing the gap, moving forwards, and this plays into the wrestlers hands because because he will have to cover less distance to make the shot

  2. Mir is right.. Wrestlers v strikers.. Wrestlers will win, but Overeem is an exception bc Brock don’t like to get face painted like Cain did to him. Overeem is the strongest and the best striker in the UFC and he will paint Lesnar’s face so he looks like a clown. Awesome matchup.. When Overeem is done w Brock, Reem will face Jds after he loses to Cain!

    • Jake says:

      Overeem is a good striker but he doesn’t have the speed and wrestling background of Cain to stop/avoid Brock’s takedowns or get up from them if/when he gets taken down.

    • Stockton muthufucka.. says:

      I respectfully disagree..Personally i think Overeem gets way too much credit for his striking ability, he is fantastic kick boxer don’t get me wrong, but he is nowhere near the caliber striker of a Cain Velazquez or even a Shane Carwin who though Brock took a bit of a beating from, Carwin wasn’t able to finish the job punching him with everything he had for 5 minutes straight. Imo This will be a somewhat easy tune up fight for Brock, especially since Overeem’s ground game is sub par at best.

    • wayuk says:

      Overeem is not the stronget & best striker in the ufc, i think JDS is.

    • JimmyS says:

      Why would Overeem figh JDS if he loses to Cain? Dana said the winner of Brock and Overeem gets a title shot.

    • john says:

      Best striker in the ufc? Lol silva would probably knock him out silvas knowledge of distance would alow of him to move a 1/4 of an inch out of the way and come in and land hi shot seen it hundreds of times

    • Calvin says:

      see frank mir is just trying to up talk himself because hes the only to not rock the shit out of lesnar

  3. Dosan says:

    This is exactly how I imagine the fight going, too. Brock isn’t going to stand with The Reem, and Alistair isn’t going to be able to stuff Brock’s take downs.

  4. Xaninho says:

    Takedowns need to be re-evaluated points wise…

    Nowadays I see fights where a wrestler gets his face pounded in for 3 and a half minutes in the stand-up, then he manages to take down his opponent and lay on top of him doing nothing substantial for one and a half minute (which I find ridiculous , cause refs need to start standing up fighters sooner when there’s no substantial submission attempts or striking from the guy on top) and then the fucking judges give that round to the dry-humper!

    I saw Ben Askren retain his title against Jay Hieron this way and that was just not right at all. Split Decision? How in the hell can a judge even THINK of giving Askren more points if he had some sense in him.

    • spiritsplice says:

      Absolutely right, too much is in favor of wrestlers with regards to the rules. a take down and even position control is meaningless if you can’t use it to finish. It is no different than the stupid “who is more aggressive” way of scoring. So what if someone keeps moving forward swinging like an idiot, neber hitting anything. Fighting is about winning and skill to finish.It should be like BJ said, no rounds, no decisions, you either get a win or its a draw.

    • What do u have against wrestlers.. That right your ex-boyfriend was a wrestler. Homoz..

      • Xaninho says:

        Funny Cuntmonster…I know why you like wrestling so much though….

        It’s two guys grindin on eachother wearing tight tutu’s huh? C’mon don’t be afraid you can admit it! I won’t think any less of you….

  5. Logan says:

    Everybody is apparently forgetting that most of Overeem’s wins come from submission…

    • Shawn says:

      I was just going to say. Most mainstream mma fans won’t know much about Overeem prior to his Strikeforce days. He can submit people, especially with his strength and size. Imo, his downfall is his cardio. The fight between Lesnar and Overeem will come down to who comes in better conditioned. Both come in with KO power, both come in with size and speed (for HWs), both have devasting GnP. But one is a much better wrestler, while the other is a better submission guy. And one hasn’t fought in a while because of surgery, and the other had a lack luster performance i his last fight. They pretty much cancel each out on paper. Each have a good chance of beating the other guy. So it comes down to, who can pour on the assault and get tired the least. Once those hands drop, someone is getting KO’d or taken down and TKO’d or submitted.

  6. bizzle says:

    Who carers.. JDS will smash both of those clowns after he bury’s Cain..

  7. KingGareth says:

    It will come down to Overeem’s takedown defence.

  8. Jarrad... says:

    Eat a Dick ****… Overeem will smash him…..

  9. mmaislandjunkie says:

    frank mir has always never made sense.

  10. Calabama says:

    Professional record breakdown
    47 matches 35 wins 11 losses
    By knockout 14 6
    By submission 19 2
    By decision 2 3
    No contests 1

    I understand what Mir is saying and I know Overeem’s opponents might not have always been of the highest caliber but Overeem isn’t exactly a slouch on the ground either. That being said I do agree Overeem has never seen someone with the size and takedown ability of Brock. That all being said I’m picking Overeem by TKO in the 2nd round.

  11. BJ Penny Arcade says:

    hopefully he’s right. MMA moves forward with Brock Lesnar in terms of numbers; not with Overeem. Hopefully for the sake of MMA’s progress, it will be Lesnar as the victor. Does anyone else agree?

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