MAYWEATHER WITHDRAWS FROM OLYMPIC-STYLE DRUG TESTING!
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4772853
I think Richard Schaefer, who's promoting this fight for Mayweather, put it best:
Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."
"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.
"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."
While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.
"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.
"How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance-enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather [Jr.], who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."
I think Richard Schaefer, who's promoting this fight for Mayweather, put it best:
Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."
"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.
"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."
While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.
"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.
"How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance-enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather [Jr.], who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."
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Permalink Reply by J-bUrN on -
And your in Floyd's...
Jenuel said:HGH is not detectable through urine. There is no urine analysis today that can detect HGH. But with that said, i'm not sure where your stance is on this matter. I'm guessing you're on Pacquiao's corner.
blu shiroma said:Steroids could be detected through urine, blood test for EPO is only done because its cheaper than Urinalysis and it doesnt even detect EPO, all it does it detects abnormalities in the blood that warrants another test (urinalysis) which is more accurate but expensive thus they take the blood test first, HGh blood test is only good if the testee has taken HGH with 24 to 48 hours, which I doubt if taken within these parameters will help on your fight. HGh is also ineffective without taking anabolic steroids, which again could be detected by urinalysis.
braddahmatt said:then accept the damn drug tests... i dont care if you are superstitious that it weakens you... if you are that superstitious then you would think it weakens your opponent too, youre not the only one getting this test...
im sure if BJ called for a blood test on GSP before they fight and he declined everyone would be complaining that GSP is declining because he doesnt want to get caught. And BJ should ask for random blood tests. I'm all for exposing GSP for what he is.
Blood tests should be the norm anyway... its way too easy to pass a urine test... ask anyone who has had to take them.
Mark K. Aguirre said:No Pacquiao put it best! As posted on his website in regard to the accusations,
"I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work, hard work, hard work and a lot of blood spilled from my past battles in the ring, not outside of it," Pacquiao's statement said. "I have no idea what steroids look like, and my fear in God has kept me safe and victorious through all these years. "Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., don't be a coward, and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano, and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring."
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Permalink Reply by Floyd " pretty bored" Gayweather on -
You are right about HGH, it is not detectable through urine, what i said was or meant to say was that anabolic steroids could be detected through urinalysis and HGH is only good if it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroid . As far as my stance, Im actually picking neither fighter I was a PBF fan before PACman, Pacman just recently won me over and proved me wrong twice, once with ODL and Cotto. I just think this whole blood draw thing is ridiculous if it serves no purpose, since urinalysis has proven to be effective in my opinion. Plus, blood draws needs to be performed in a sterile environment to avoid any infections. Besides, his power comes from speed (mass x speed = force) its science, I dont think his fist got any bigger, he just got faster. Just take a look at how BJs new training has made him faster , don't you think training made BJ better and faster, the same thing could be said about Pacman. Pacman has gotten better and PBF has not and he will not get better if he keeps fighting B rated fighters.
Jenuel said:HGH is not detectable through urine. There is no urine analysis today that can detect HGH. But with that said, i'm not sure where your stance is on this matter. I'm guessing you're on Pacquiao's corner.
blu shiroma said:Steroids could be detected through urine, blood test for EPO is only done because its cheaper than Urinalysis and it doesnt even detect EPO, all it does it detects abnormalities in the blood that warrants another test (urinalysis) which is more accurate but expensive thus they take the blood test first, HGh blood test is only good if the testee has taken HGH with 24 to 48 hours, which I doubt if taken within these parameters will help on your fight. HGh is also ineffective without taking anabolic steroids, which again could be detected by urinalysis.
braddahmatt said:then accept the damn drug tests... i dont care if you are superstitious that it weakens you... if you are that superstitious then you would think it weakens your opponent too, youre not the only one getting this test...
im sure if BJ called for a blood test on GSP before they fight and he declined everyone would be complaining that GSP is declining because he doesnt want to get caught. And BJ should ask for random blood tests. I'm all for exposing GSP for what he is.
Blood tests should be the norm anyway... its way too easy to pass a urine test... ask anyone who has had to take them.
Mark K. Aguirre said:No Pacquiao put it best! As posted on his website in regard to the accusations,
"I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work, hard work, hard work and a lot of blood spilled from my past battles in the ring, not outside of it," Pacquiao's statement said. "I have no idea what steroids look like, and my fear in God has kept me safe and victorious through all these years. "Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., don't be a coward, and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano, and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring."
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Permalink Reply by jeff pineda on -
Aight will. Tell you what.... we will have to have a friendly bet on this fight. We will figure out what the bet is for later but deffinately we will have to make the fight fun.
Wil Tehero said:Jeffrey,
Now don't you go spreading rumors about the crying! The only tears I will be shedding is tears of joy when this fight happens. Also, I will be weeping buckets of teardrops when Pacman KO's Floyd. One more thing...After Floyd loses, together Pacman and his entourage of thirty will castrate Floyd's you know what off.
jeff pineda said:WILL!!!! Get off of pacmans cock. Seriously. Pacman is a great fighter but you even have to admit that this is crap on pacs part. You guys all cried about May wanting the drug test cuz he wuz scared. Well now he said forget it if its going to jeopordize this fight. May is doing wut he has to do to make this fight happen. Im not saying pac is scared cuz I think he (like mayweather) is too proud to be scared. However, i do believe that Arum does not believe that his fighter can win unless all the advantages are for pacman. Point being be straight up bout shit and stop sucking pacmans little thing!
Mayweather's side is ready to fight.
Wil Tehero said:There must be limitations on the blood testings for Pacman's camp. Filipino's are superstitious people, Manny believes that taking blood too close to the fight will "weaken" him. If Golden Boy Prod. wants random testing, there must be limits. After 50 fights, why would Mayweather want to change the Professional boxing rules? Manny's god-given gifts will dominate the weaker Mayweather.
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Permalink Reply by Jenuel on -
I think i've made that pretty obvious....lol
J-bUrN said:And your in Floyd's...
Jenuel said:HGH is not detectable through urine. There is no urine analysis today that can detect HGH. But with that said, i'm not sure where your stance is on this matter. I'm guessing you're on Pacquiao's corner.
blu shiroma said:Steroids could be detected through urine, blood test for EPO is only done because its cheaper than Urinalysis and it doesnt even detect EPO, all it does it detects abnormalities in the blood that warrants another test (urinalysis) which is more accurate but expensive thus they take the blood test first, HGh blood test is only good if the testee has taken HGH with 24 to 48 hours, which I doubt if taken within these parameters will help on your fight. HGh is also ineffective without taking anabolic steroids, which again could be detected by urinalysis.
braddahmatt said:then accept the damn drug tests... i dont care if you are superstitious that it weakens you... if you are that superstitious then you would think it weakens your opponent too, youre not the only one getting this test...
im sure if BJ called for a blood test on GSP before they fight and he declined everyone would be complaining that GSP is declining because he doesnt want to get caught. And BJ should ask for random blood tests. I'm all for exposing GSP for what he is.
Blood tests should be the norm anyway... its way too easy to pass a urine test... ask anyone who has had to take them.
Mark K. Aguirre said:No Pacquiao put it best! As posted on his website in regard to the accusations,
"I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work, hard work, hard work and a lot of blood spilled from my past battles in the ring, not outside of it," Pacquiao's statement said. "I have no idea what steroids look like, and my fear in God has kept me safe and victorious through all these years. "Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., don't be a coward, and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano, and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring."
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Permalink Reply by Jenuel on
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Just to make things clear, I respect and like Manny Pacquiao as a fighter. What he's accomplished in the ring hasn't been done by most. Not even Mayweather. With that said though, I just feel getting 3 blood test done from now t'll the fight starts isn't much of a big deal. Mayweather is not scared of Pacquiao, nor is he running from him. The same goes for Pacquiao. This has been said about Fedor too. Just the speculation of a FIGHTER being SCARED to FIGHT is ridiculous. This is the sport these athletes have chosen for their careers. So why would either of them be scared to do what they were born to do?
Like everybody else here, I just want this fight to happen. All this testing and steroid use is just drama to hype up the fight. I mean, just look at how many people on this site are talking about it.
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Permalink Reply by Wil Tehero on -
Aight Jeff.
Bu..bu..but...wha...wha...wha...type of betting??? Uh...uh...you are not talking about money are you?
jeff pineda said:Aight will. Tell you what.... we will have to have a friendly bet on this fight. We will figure out what the bet is for later but deffinately we will have to make the fight fun.
Wil Tehero said:Jeffrey,
Now don't you go spreading rumors about the crying! The only tears I will be shedding is tears of joy when this fight happens. Also, I will be weeping buckets of teardrops when Pacman KO's Floyd. One more thing...After Floyd loses, together Pacman and his entourage of thirty will castrate Floyd's you know what off.
jeff pineda said:WILL!!!! Get off of pacmans cock. Seriously. Pacman is a great fighter but you even have to admit that this is crap on pacs part. You guys all cried about May wanting the drug test cuz he wuz scared. Well now he said forget it if its going to jeopordize this fight. May is doing wut he has to do to make this fight happen. Im not saying pac is scared cuz I think he (like mayweather) is too proud to be scared. However, i do believe that Arum does not believe that his fighter can win unless all the advantages are for pacman. Point being be straight up bout shit and stop sucking pacmans little thing!
Mayweather's side is ready to fight.
Wil Tehero said:There must be limitations on the blood testings for Pacman's camp. Filipino's are superstitious people, Manny believes that taking blood too close to the fight will "weaken" him. If Golden Boy Prod. wants random testing, there must be limits. After 50 fights, why would Mayweather want to change the Professional boxing rules? Manny's god-given gifts will dominate the weaker Mayweather.
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Permalink Reply by jeff pineda on
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LOL>>> CHALE WILL.... thats illegal... but we will figure something out. No matter what it is you are gonna owe tho.
Wil Tehero said:Aight Jeff.
Bu..bu..but...wha...wha...wha...type of betting??? Uh...uh...you are not talking about money are you?
jeff pineda said:Aight will. Tell you what.... we will have to have a friendly bet on this fight. We will figure out what the bet is for later but deffinately we will have to make the fight fun.
Wil Tehero said:Jeffrey,
Now don't you go spreading rumors about the crying! The only tears I will be shedding is tears of joy when this fight happens. Also, I will be weeping buckets of teardrops when Pacman KO's Floyd. One more thing...After Floyd loses, together Pacman and his entourage of thirty will castrate Floyd's you know what off.
jeff pineda said:WILL!!!! Get off of pacmans cock. Seriously. Pacman is a great fighter but you even have to admit that this is crap on pacs part. You guys all cried about May wanting the drug test cuz he wuz scared. Well now he said forget it if its going to jeopordize this fight. May is doing wut he has to do to make this fight happen. Im not saying pac is scared cuz I think he (like mayweather) is too proud to be scared. However, i do believe that Arum does not believe that his fighter can win unless all the advantages are for pacman. Point being be straight up bout shit and stop sucking pacmans little thing!
Mayweather's side is ready to fight.
Wil Tehero said:There must be limitations on the blood testings for Pacman's camp. Filipino's are superstitious people, Manny believes that taking blood too close to the fight will "weaken" him. If Golden Boy Prod. wants random testing, there must be limits. After 50 fights, why would Mayweather want to change the Professional boxing rules? Manny's god-given gifts will dominate the weaker Mayweather.
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Permalink Reply by Alfred Marzan on -
Manny finished De La Hoya, Mayweather took him to a decision.
Manny finished Hatton in 2 rounds, Mayweather did in 10.
GTFO of here with your flawed logic.
Need more shit to show how stupid your logic is?
Floyd didn't wanna fight Cotto, Pacquiao did & finished him too.
And LMAO at comparing the Penn/Diego gap to Manny/Floyd.
That's fucking laughable dude.
Manny's 'good' and Floyd's 'great'?!?!?
They're both 'great' idiot.
Those 2 are arguably the #1 & #2 Pound-for-Pound boxers on the planet.
Are you telling me there's an argument that BJ & Diego are the #1 & #2 P4P MMA fighters? BJ's a top 5 P4P & the #1 LW... but Diego is like... a top 5 LW & top 15-20 P4P.
What idiotic statements & comparisons.
Classic.
michael harkleyPac doesnt possess skill to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is on a whole other level that he is. Pac's an awesome boxer, U cant take that away from him, but he's not Mayweather. Pac got worked by Marques everytime they stepped toe to toe and some say didnt really win those bouts either.... the same dude that worked pac over and was said by some to be the most challenging fight of Pacs career was just worked like a $2 ho by Mayweather. theres no comparison. We just had a prime example with the BJ vs Diego fight. Diego's no bum, If he's not fighting BJ i pull for him everytime, but against BJ?There was, as everyone saw a huge gap in skill. Pacs the same way, good but Mayweathers Great
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Permalink Reply by Wil Tehero on
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Jeff,
It is on my brother from another mother! As long as it is legal. Hey If I lose, I got something awesome for your wife/girlfriend. Really no joking. (and no it is not perveted, seriously).
Aight~
jeff pineda said:LOL>>> CHALE WILL.... thats illegal... but we will figure something out. No matter what it is you are gonna owe tho.
Wil Tehero said:Aight Jeff.
Bu..bu..but...wha...wha...wha...type of betting??? Uh...uh...you are not talking about money are you?
jeff pineda said:Aight will. Tell you what.... we will have to have a friendly bet on this fight. We will figure out what the bet is for later but deffinately we will have to make the fight fun.
Wil Tehero said:Jeffrey,
Now don't you go spreading rumors about the crying! The only tears I will be shedding is tears of joy when this fight happens. Also, I will be weeping buckets of teardrops when Pacman KO's Floyd. One more thing...After Floyd loses, together Pacman and his entourage of thirty will castrate Floyd's you know what off.
jeff pineda said:WILL!!!! Get off of pacmans cock. Seriously. Pacman is a great fighter but you even have to admit that this is crap on pacs part. You guys all cried about May wanting the drug test cuz he wuz scared. Well now he said forget it if its going to jeopordize this fight. May is doing wut he has to do to make this fight happen. Im not saying pac is scared cuz I think he (like mayweather) is too proud to be scared. However, i do believe that Arum does not believe that his fighter can win unless all the advantages are for pacman. Point being be straight up bout shit and stop sucking pacmans little thing!
Mayweather's side is ready to fight.
Wil Tehero said:There must be limitations on the blood testings for Pacman's camp. Filipino's are superstitious people, Manny believes that taking blood too close to the fight will "weaken" him. If Golden Boy Prod. wants random testing, there must be limits. After 50 fights, why would Mayweather want to change the Professional boxing rules? Manny's god-given gifts will dominate the weaker Mayweather.
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