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Doctor Throws Sonnen Under The Bus: Claims Need For TRT A Result Of Steroid Use | UFC NEWS


“Was Chael Sonnen a big time collegiate wrestler? Yes he was. I’m going to opine and say to you, there’s no way in the world you get to the level of collegiate wrestling that Chael Sonnen was at, with hypogonadism. Let me explain to you why. Hypogonadism means that the testes did not produce enough testosterone for one to normally mature. He wasn’t on TRT as a teenager. He became this big, muscled up monster and NCAA wrestler with hypogonadism? Hell no. The truth of the matter is, you could never get to that level, because you’re not going to have the muscle mass and strength to get you there. They’re going to run you over. Your body will not allow you to develop enough muscle and strength to compete at your size. If he has hypogonadism, it’s from one thing, and one thing only, because he treated himself with steroids in the past, and wrecked his testes. That’s it.”

Popular MMA doc, Johny Benjamin, recently talked to Bloodyelbow.com’s Stephie Daniels about a slew of topics. One of which being Chael Sonnen and the condition that requires him to take Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

Sonnen claims the condition surfaced for him as a young teen and has plagued the UFC middleweight for the entirety of his adult life, however this doctor throws him under the bus so badly you can hear the thud of the tires rolling over Chael’s body.

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0 Comments to Doctor Throws Sonnen Under The Bus: Claims Need For TRT A Result Of Steroid Use | UFC NEWS

  1. Phantom weight says:

    And who didnt know this?

    • danielrchargers says:

      He may be the man with the biggest arm and the most charm… but hes also the man with the smallest balls.

    • Fred says:

      I don’t care what he’s useing that’s his business,
      What I want is for him to whoop Anderson’s ass agian!

      • Shawn says:

        And you home slice is going to need all the advantage he can get to even come close again. But no amount of roids, or cheating will help him beat the champ. lol

  2. Xaninho says:

    Anyone surprised? I think we all knew that already. Sonnen turned himself into a Eunuch and now the NSAC has granted him an exemption to juice up to insane levels of 6:1.

    • frankinnog says:

      TRT does not help your strength like steroids do it just helps your recovery time so they are not leting him juice not the same thing at all

      • Xaninho says:

        Uhm no you’re wrong. TRT does help the strength like steroids.

        Just look at the difference, Sonnen on TRT against Silva and Sonnen off TRt against Bisping. Sonnen lost alot of muscle when he was off the TRT.

        • pffft says:

          while trt does give you strength as it is intended fucking strength didnt get anderson to the ground.his ability to wreslte did and anderson’s NON ability to defend it.bisping has improved tons in the wreslting department jsut watch his last few fights hes been taking guys down frequently….except for Hendo and we all know what happeend there hahaha.regardless trt doesnt do the job for you and anyone whos trained will klnow that training and style trumps strength any day ive proved that in the gym myself for years

        • jones says:

          @stupidppdd idiot…so even if cheal was 155 he wuld take anderson to the ground???? no moron some strength in involved it taking injured anderson doen bud

        • Zack says:

          It doesn’t matter if it gives you strength better recovery or a bigger Penis it gives you an advantage and that is cheating. There’s no other way to put it, it’s cheating.

        • Uncle Cheal says:

          Regardless of what it does, it gives you an unfair advantage over your opponent. Therefore, it is considered CHEATING! Just like all these guys that are old as shit and still competing with the top young guys. No, it’s not because of their natural talent, it’s because they are roided the fuck up thanks to that “TRT” excuse. That’s why I respect Randy Couture. He went out to fight his heart out. Sometimes he got his ass handed to him by younger guys, but always took the loss like a man and never considered trt.

        • Xaninho says:

          Silva wasn’t even trying to defend the takedowns. He was focused on submitting Sonnen.

          And it’s obvious solely being on TRT or other steroids doesn’t win you fights. But the extra strength/conditioning does give an unfair advantage over clean fighters.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          @pffft, is pffft a fart sound spelled out? That’s what I think when I see it…Thank God I don’t smell that letter combination…

      • bxer says:

        You don’t know shit, get some knowledge before you write more stupid comments, Google testosterone and what testosterone is for your body and make your comment stupid, or maybe scientists don’t know what you know, is obvious you are a chael fan because you sound just like him

  3. ThaGreenBandit says:

    So… Anything new?

  4. Hjortur Halldorsson says:

    No shit Sherlock. This is the case with all those TRT users. But it won’t change the fact that I will be rooting for Sonnen against Anderson and I will also root for Overeem in all his fights except when he faces JDS. I really want to know how many fighters in the UFC have used or are using PED’s. My guess is that that number is very high.

    • WrestlingRules says:

      It’s 99.9%……some obviously use it more than others. You can’t tell by the way their body looks, cuz diet and cardio play a big role in fat ratio;s. But yah all have used it at one time or another….

    • Xaninho says:

      Yeah! I’ve had my suspicions about Roy Nelson too!

      • WrestlingRules says:

        Now that was funny….Steroids and cheeseburgers and beer = Roy Nelson……your very opinionated and take yourself WAY to serious sometimes, but your smartassness can be funny sometimes.. Keep it up it would be an improvement.

  5. Chad says:

    I myself am on trt and I am going to tell you straight up. It is nothing like juicing. I still have to put my time in at the gym and diet just like the next guy. If it was anything close to juicing I would be a monster. Now I can’t vouch for the fact that this guy is juicing or not, but as far as trt goes, I take 100mgs of test cypionate a week. Of course it is prescribed but it is nothiNg in comparison to the 1200mgs a week of similar testosterone. They should check how much was in his system and that will tell them whether or not he was abusing

    • jones says:

      @chad..u fuking idiot..trt is juicing…i wanted try sterioids last year so i went to my doc and told him i had low testosterone annd was emotional..he gave me tesosterone enethate 250mg/ml the same exact shit body builders and juicers use moron…what if you call it trt its not juice???a STERIOID is STERIOID OK,,,and testosterone is a sterioid do some research….and thee way you stupid ass is talking is if you were juicing you could just sit at home and not go the gym and get ripped,,,when u take roids u still need workout to get ripped u just recover faster and get energey better….the shit they use for trt test eneth is the base for every juicer cycle….your a god dam idiott

      • Nuitari X says:

        It trips me out how people sit and call other people idiots when their spelling and grammar is absolutely horrible. LOL

      • Vanilla-Gorilla says:

        @jones – you have “low testosterone and are emotional” because you ARE A GIRL. Period??

        Let the dust settle. Let the Pro’s have it. If the Pro’s want to juice, let ‘em. If our boys (and girls) in uniform want to juice, let ‘em. Police the lower ranks, youth through college. If you’ve got the skill to make it it big, or have the bigs to stare down enemy forces or an IED on no sleep and in intolerable heat/cold…then I say here’s your script, pop “x” amount when needed.

        …And don’t play the “roll model” card. If you’re not your kids role model, YOU’VE got bigger problems.

  6. Big Show says:

    no surprise at all, Sonnen is a cheater and a jackass….

  7. Thetude says:

    I hate chael ss much, why does he he get so much special treatment? oh yea thats right he is Dana Whites lil money maker, bullshit, straight bull

  8. Dante says:

    said it before i’ll say it again… chaels a bitch! all his little fan boys are bitches too! for supporting a lying bitch
    ps: pacquiao was robbed!
    have a great monday my bjpenn.com ninjaz ;)

    • jones says:

      yes dante..cheal and all his fans are fags….and yes pacman got robbed,,,however pacmaan robbed marquez last fight so he got payback

      • Chris says:

        Check the box stats, it says other wise

        • Dante says:

          tis true! marquez whooped pacman..again! and was robbed
          the real sad story is boxing and how its gone to the dogs! bad judging tops it all :(
          ps: bob arum is the devil
          bjpenn.com all day! anderson silva n bj penn all day!

        • Timmy says:

          everyone and their grandmother knows marquez whooped mannys ass. even manny was surprised he won that fight against marquez but once roach and arum start whispering their sweet nothings to manny he starts talkin shit.

          plus its easy to tell manny juices you go from zero ko power to having ko power. he does it while hes at the cockfights getting cheap philipino whore to blow him

  9. Ken Shamrock says:

    Chael is a honest person with a good heart who has helped many kids and people better their lives outside the Octagon. On top of that, he is a very good fighter with a VERY SERIOUS HARD WORK Ethic. Chael deserves all the success he is earning for himself and I will be cheering for him to beat Anderon “lie to fans” Silva!

    Regarding TRT, that stupid MD “Doctor” does not have access to Chael Sonnen’s medical records so he has NO CLUE NOR KNOWLEDGE of Chael’s medical history. Genetics can play a huge role here folks. Lets be fair, Chael is obeying the rules and is a very kind and giving person in life. Heck, Chael has giving us WAY MORE entertainment than Anderson “phony” Silva in the likes of interviews and media appearances.

    USA ALL THE WAY, Chael Sonnen gonna SAVE THE DAY!

    • WrestlingRules says:

      HooRah Ken…I actually think this so-called doctor is conducting medical malpractice by spewing his nonsense. He uses logical fallacy to make a point and doesn’t know what the specifics are. These douchebags here just need any little thing to spew their hate for Sonnen, cuz he beat up their fake superhero. Who couldn’t GIVE one rats ass for ANY of them. Silva is about Silva and diiiinnneeeerrroooooo. That’s MONEY boys. This so-called doctor is needing some attention cuz this irresponsible bullshit he’s spewing is about getting that attention and gettin’ paid dumbass’…..

      • Zack says:

        Coming from one of the biggest juicers in mma history. That’s some funny shit. Do you actually believe the things you say or do you just talk without thinking? And wrestlingsgay

        • WrestlingRules says:

          I COMPLETELY think what I say and I say what I think?? What’s your point, zachisgay?

        • Zack says:

          You are so far up chaels ass I don’t think there is any hope for pulling you back out. Poor guy

        • WrestlingRules says:

          So your point is that I am up chael’s ass?? Do you know how to fight??? Or maybe, is that how you fight?? Do you actually have a point or is it you just have ad hominens cuz you just don;t like what somebody says? Are you a bit slow witted? Well, can you fight???

        • Zack says:

          Yes I have a black belt in tae kwon do. What do you have? 1 years experience in a high school wrestling room? Congrats bro. I hope you don’t talk to people in real life like u do on here. If you do I’d imagine all your front teeth are fake. You’ve Probly been on this website all day waiting for a reply you fuckin shit stain. Go do something usefull and make your momma proud.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          @Zack…BWAAHHAAAA , you’re a spongebob karatee boy….I knew you were a bitch…Now you keep the mommas out of this or I will get really mad. And to answer your question, yes I talk just like this to people’s faces who talk shit like you spongebob!!! How about you, just a keyboard warrior or do you speak to people to their face like you do here. Do you prick?

      • Xaninho says:

        You really have trouble recognizing common sense do you? Whenever there’s some wrestler involved you get all emotional and write down all kinds of weird statements.

        Stick to the facts bro.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Your use of common sense and you opinion is called a logical fallacy to make your point. It;s an interesting piece of your personality. You just went way off the reservation this one.

        • baldy says:

          wrestlingrules=blahdablah

        • WrestlingRules says:

          If you don’t don’t have the grey matter to comprende @baldy DON”T F’ING READ MY SHIT…

        • WrestlingIsForFags says:

          It sounds to me like all you are doing is googling big words and trying to use them to sounds smart. We all know you have a ppe brain, and how you might ask? Because you beleive wrestling is dominant and you are tough. I am sure you are a pathetic school girl who is complaining to his mommy that “mean people are saying bad things on the internet.” Well why don’t you just get off of Chael’s tiny steroid filled testicle, and recognize that he is a winy little bitch just like you, your father, and his father before that!

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Don’t know about all that? But what I do know and EVERYBODY bored enough to read this crap is that YOU ARE WHINNEY LITTLE COWARD for making up a name just for me!!! And a bit fucking weird too…

        • WrestlingRules says:

          lol @ blahdeblah aka rasslinrules aka dooshy mcbaggins aka baldys beoch….nobady can conprehend the bullshit your spewing…

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Yah but you’re bs is PERFECTLY clear…coward

        • baldy says:

          @rasslinrules aka blahdeblah….if u dont want people commenting on “your shit” dont post it….we’re supposed to read “your shit” and anyone can comment on it if they want.
          also…considering the vast majority of the comments on this thread are yours….get a life loser! you really dont have to comment on every single post…

    • Xaninho says:

      That ‘stupid’ MD went by the official statements made by Sonnen himself, dumbass.

      Sonnen said he needed TRT, because he was born with Hypogonadism. the doctor is just using common sense and knowledge in his statement.

      If Sonnen REALLY had Hypogonadism he would never been able to compete at the levels he’s been competing.

      • WrestlingRules says:

        Whoa, I got you now, your starting to use the ad hominens. You seem to do that when you get mad…..

        This is good. This so-called malpractice doctor describes the way you think completely. Takes someones words and spins it and calls it common sense and logical and knowledgeable to make your OPINION to be a fact and, Oh if you disagree, your a dumbass. No my confused friend, what you do and this so-called doctor did is called logical fallacy. And it is the symptom of a intellectually dishonest person. (aka: you a stupid mo’fo, also when I use ad hominens its usually to gloat, hehehehehehe)
        You lose……

        • Hjortur Halldorsson says:

          Hey WrestlingRules be nice to Xaninho. His team Holland are in a difficult position in their group at the Euro’s (football tournament) so he might be a little vulnerable right now.
          I must also add that if Sonnen managed to gain all that muscle with low-T then I seriously need to get checked because I’ve been lifting weights on and off for 10 years but still I’m not even close to having the biggest guns in West Linn, Oregon, like Sonnen.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          @Hjortur , side note: I’m beginning to see that Icelandic is not that hard to learn. You know whatever the first letter is to the word it is usually followed by a ‘J’ and that letter is silent, right??
          Back to topic: I understand about @X…but since you told me he is from Holland, everything is coming into focus now. Life just ain’t fair!! Oh and I take acceptance to the use of football for the much less superior game of Soccer. Please, I am sensitive don;t disrespect American football by calling what you guys do as football, it is soccer. Much Thanks…
          Now some people like GSP are naturally muscled (at least I don’t think he has juiced???) so perhaps Sonnen is of this type. It is just as valid of a supposition as yours and X’s that because he had hypogonads since high school, he might not have muscles, Yes???

          Does Iceland have a soccer team??!!

        • Xaninho says:

          Please! It’s Football, it’s always been Football.

          Just because Americans in their infinite wisdom decided to call a game where they throw a ball American Football, doesn’t mean that the original Football should be renamed to soccer by the entire world.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          @X..you’re right, I’m wrong you guys had football first, I think. Btw: I coach my kids soccer team, I mean football team….

        • kw says:

          a little too much english 101 textbook reading from your local community college? grow the fuck up and realize you sound like a fucking idiot…

        • WrestlingRules says:

          @kw – so now you disrespect my community college education and all of us community college graduates??? It’s a big group, hope you can take it….And yah your post CLEARLY shows that I am the fkn idiot and YOU’RE NOT……You sound very smart..

        • Xaninho says:

          There’s no room to disagree with facts. It’s an exact science, people truly born with hypogonadism can’t be high level competing athletes. Yes it’s that simple, not an opinion but a fact.

          On your little English lesson I have one remark. You’ve been using the expression ‘so-called’ numerous times to address the doctor in question. Let’s see if you can draw a conclusion out of that….

          Nobody is winning or losing here, we’re not inside a ring or cage. It’s just you trying to sound smart and me schooling you, not a matter of winning or losing, just how it goes.

        • Gibbs says:

          i don’t know my lil bro has hypogonadism and is a bad ass track and field star. Hes placed in running and in shotput. I know that he isn’t juicing not after what we saw growing up when my uncle was a juicer when he was trying to be a bodybuilder.

          Also I actually enjoy wrestlingrules logic lesson havent heard some of that stuff used in a long time

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Yah logic is a dangerous thing to @Xaninho. Just asking you to question this so-called doctors motives for making such a irresponsible statement….

        • Xaninho says:

          He didn’t make an irresponsible statement, he just stated the obvious. Substantiated with scientific facts.

        • WrestlingRules says:

          So you think that a doctor can make a statement that he KNOWS everything about someones medical records WITHOUT ever seeing those medical records and that his assertions are iron-clad as facts?? No, it’s called irresponsibility bordering on malpractice to make an assertion WITHOUT knowing all of your precious facts about Sonnen’s personal medical information….Now ask yourself what are his motives for doing this obvious libel????

        • dogfart says:

          best troll ever, does seem like blahde blah under a new persona tho

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Only a troll, trolling like you would know, Right??

        • EBK says:

          You guys are really gay…. Lol

        • WrestlingRules says:

          We’re just havin’ a good ole fight…what’s wrong or homosexual about that???

  10. B-rad says:

    TRUF! lol im glad somebody finally is calling people out on this.. i know some fighters have been but its just ridicoulus for an extremely healthy and physically fit 30 year old man needs TRT..its just nonsense, my dad is 52 years old and hes having trouble getting a doctor to assign him to it, and i see fuckers like chael who say they need it when hes what 32?? GTFO

  11. Ken Shamrock says:

    FACT 1: This “stupid” medical doctor DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS to Chael’s medical records.

    FACT 2: Statements do not equate to facts. (Therefore, your assessment is also FALSE.)

    FACT 3: A Medical Doctor making assumptions not based on facts is not practicing honest medicine. It’s more like SLANDER. Shame on this MD for spewing misinformation and assuming to know Chael’s medical details when he clearly does not know Chael.

    • baldy says:

      ^^^LOL….shamrock…..one “rassler” sticking up for another….u guys should get together…u could be tag team champs. lol

    • Gump says:

      This MD is as credible as Dr. Oz and if you’re smart and look into what Oz says he is full of shit.

      • Ken Shamrock says:

        Dr. Mehmet Oz is a very reputable Cardiac Surgeon.

        If he was full of shit he would not have graduate top of his class from medical school and SAVED MANY PEOPLES LIVES. I find it funny that your name is GUMP because making a stupid statement like that without any proof, is STUPID. What did ol’ forrest gump used to say?: Stupid is Stupid does. :)

        • Gump says:

          This from the guy who is using the name of a known roider and fighter that doesnt know when to quit.

          Also bitch pls Oz is full of shit my best friend is in med school and all he has learned is most of the shit Oz preaches against. Oz is one of thos psuedo doctors thats playing it up for these housewives he sold his ethics along time ago

          like the damn apple juice scare he caused and over 90 different scientists, FDA and several doctors said otherwise and that he was crazy

          Yup reputable

          GUMP has spoken

        • WrestlingRules says:

          Hey Forest…Chocolate is what chocolate does… Or is it shrimp???

        • Ken Shamrock says:

          Gump,

          There you go again spouting misinformation / heresy with no proof. I forgive you and your stupidity :).

          Your friend in medical school and the pseudo doctors in numbers does not mean they are accurate. Dr. Oz’s medical team confirmed their Arsenic findings in some Apple Juice brands by sending their samples TO MULTIPLE and DIFFERENT TESTING Laboratories. They have empirical evidence that supports their concern of arsenic in Apple Juice.

          Sometimes the truth hurts. It was funny, this one doctor went on a news program who was allegedly against Dr. Oz’s findings until Dr. Oz came on and told them of the test results from MULTIPLE different laboratories. Then, this opposing “doctor” changed his view and began to say how he liked dr. oz, etc. They’re a bunch of bullshitters, but Dr. Oz speaks the truth :).

        • Ross says:

          Wow, you ladies must really love Dr. Oz. I guess you girls really have alot of time to watch his show. I can’t since I’m busy working and training at the gym. Who cares about that two-bit doctor he should stay in the hospital not on tv. If you guys quit circle jerkin each other you would know that all doctors are liars they will tell you one thing but will tell the next guy something else. Plus the only doctor on tv I listen to was Dr. Ruth now that chick was awesome.

    • Xaninho says:

      I’ll just let your comments speak for itself. Not going to waste time and point out the stupidity of them.

    • Bd says:

      This must be chael himself!

  12. Drock says:

    to stop the debate i use to use roids like straight up for about 2 years straight i havent touch them in 7 years but a buddy of mine whos an dr was noticing something about me and tested me and came back that i had low test levels i have done trt twice yea it makes me feel good but it did nothing to me like roids ever did. if i ever wanted to get back to my serious body building ways i wouldnt use trt i would use roids.

  13. Jesse says:

    Well I now know not to go to that doctor for anything he will turn around and tell everyone about my history. I can just see the story Fighter Jesse Hart had an STD and that explains his trt use. I think more and more doctors are going to come out an speak against alot of fighters. Next its going to be Rampage’s doctors and then Hendos’ .

  14. Nick says:

    Whatever happened to Doctor/Patient confidentiality? I mean if that’s his doctor he can take him to court. If it’s not, he has no reason to be saying anything.

  15. GRT 3000 says:

    pfft, I’ve read allot of bullshit in here…what a joke. Sonnen is a known criminal on parole; a real estate scam artist and a massive (17:1) cheat. He’s got a mediocre record and a big fuckin’ mouth that’s blabbin it’s way into big dollars. But he’s legit on the TRT thing right? Either you’re that stupid or you have your head buried so deep in Sonnen’s ass your tonguin’ his prostate. good luck with that…

    …for the rest of us it takes only a shred of common sense to realize the truth. Sonnen is a nutless juicer that requires (unfair) elevated TRT and cheap WWE media tactics to even be considered a matchup for Silva. Without those two things he’s not even on the radar.

  16. I notice Chart has’nt jumped to the defence of his hero.Where is Chart?

  17. B-rad says:

    chaels hoping to double his trt intake in hopes of another 5 round wrestlefuck

  18. Bee says:

    Some of you want to know why Chael gets
    Away with it? Some say his “Danas money making bitch” others call him a cheater BUT when he TALKS you listen, When somebody writes about him you READ and when he Fights you WATCH!! Don’t hate the player hate the game IDIOTS!

    • GRT 3000 says:

      I don’t fuck-stick. just b/c I come on BJP.com and write a couple of lines on the dude it doesn’t mean I have a shrine in my house. I comment on this goof as much as any fighter…I just call him an ass clown when I do.

  19. Trey says:

    Trt is not cheating if it was they wouldn’t let him do it we need to remember he lost to silva and he can lose again while on trt I bet theres way more fighters that use trt and just dont let us know it I think he’s going to beat silva but I’m not nieve I know silva is the best to do it but there needs to be somebody thats a strong opposition against silva somebody has to take him out one day I thinks its gonna be sonnen or jon jones but theres no doubt silva going to be remembered like ashli or atleast I think so

  20. Fred says:

    I don’t care what he’s useing that’s his buissness,
    What I want is for him to whoop Anderson’s ass agian!

  21. Nando says:

    Lol @ all these doctors in the comments section throwing in their two cents

  22. jwise says:

    Ok even if he did use roids before who in mma hasn’t really. Some people are just hating. There isn’t a professional sport where it truly judges athletes endurance/strength that most likely doesn’t have roiders in it. An who knows maybe he did have this problem when he was a teenager and was given testosterone treatments how are we to know his medical history. Just saying look around before fingers are pointed.

  23. zucc says:

    People should read up about liver powder

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