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Dana White Wants Jon Jones At 205 But See's His Future At Heavyweight | UFC NEWS


“Jon Jones is a physical specimen. The guy is huge at 205 pounds…. He can make 205. Once he cleans out a division and [expletive] starts getting a little old and stale, then maybe he makes that move to heavyweight. He’s 24 years old, and as he gets older, it’s going to be harder to cut that weight. It’s going to be harder to stay as lean as he is. If I was him, and I’m not his coach or advisor or anything, I’d wait until that naturally happens….You move up to heavyweight, and you’ve got Junior Dos Santos up there. Dude’s got bombs in his hands. … You’ve got some big serious dudes at heavyweights. It’s a big jump. It’s not going to be that fun at heavyweight.”

Dana White comments to the Ithaca Journal.

Jones has all but cleaned out the Light Heavyweight division and all that is standing in his way could be Dan Henderson & Alexander Gustafsson.

Jones could also be back in action as soon as UFC 149 in Calgary on July 21. The event currently has no headline bout with Jose Aldo being moved & White hinted earlier in the week that Jones vs. Henderson is a potential candidate.

How do you think Jones would do in the Heavyweight division would he go on to conquer it ?

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53 Comments to Dana White Wants Jon Jones At 205 But See's His Future At Heavyweight | UFC NEWS

  1. The natural says:

    No shit been saying it fo awhile now he’s to big for lhw but too much of a bitch to fight guys his size

    • Dinglenuts Magee says:

      Which is exactly why the UFC has been using reach classes all along!!!!

      Rashad Evans is fighting Miguel Torres this summer in the 75in reach division…

      it is such bullshit that Torres takes fights like these, since his 76 reach gives him an unfair edge, what a ***** Torres is for cutting that inch of reach and picking on smaller guys!!!!

      • jaydee says:

        funny^^

      • E716 says:

        I feel where your coming from but look at guys like frankie…and torres just got ktfo be shorter reach guy

      • TheTruth says:

        Ay Dude, shut up. Jon Jones IS simply TO BIG and TO STROGN for LHW.
        Jon Jones = OVERSIZED and OVERPOWERED cowarad who is fighting SMALLER and WEAKER OPPONENTS !!

        And let me tell you something. There are big and weak guys (Freakshow) and there are big and strong guys (Jon jones). Not any tall guy is as strong. THAST THE POINT. And it’s not about weight either. You can wiegh the same or EVEN MORE BUT STILL be LOT WEAKER !!!

        You are just defending Jon jones because you know this is TheTruth !!!

    • Reality says:

      As big as he is the heavyweights are bigger and stronger. I’d understand if there was a division between LHW and heavyweight but there isn’t at the moment. He’d be fighting guys who cut weight to be 265 and walk around heavier..Not to mention that these guys have some heavier hands. He’s in his rightful division. Funny enough, he cuts as much weight as others in his division. He just happens to be taller and longer than most of them. There are others in the division his size though. Dana is right with this one. The same thing happens in the lighter divisions too.

    • ThaGreenBandit says:

      “…too much of a bitch…”? Dude, you’re sitting at a computer, calling a pro fighter, who is the champion no less, a bitch? Really?! Yeah, it’s clear who the real bitch is…

    • Clay says:

      Everybody in LHW division cuts just as much weight as jones. It’s not like he is any different. Dudes just a beast. And its nt like its unfair. Any heavy weight could cut down to LHW if it was that easy to clean on a division.

    • Aj says:

      hes tall but not big, compare him with Overeem when he was young. Alistair was twice jones’s size then. This is all bs, caz no one can beat him, they try to move him away from the division. Dana doesn’t give a shit about him either, pretends he cares… pfffff. hes scared that the division will eventually become boring and stale, like middle weight.

  2. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on an MMA site/forum… and that’s saying something. Would be a decent troll, if you didn’t actually believe it…

  3. Marek says:

    No JDS would smash him he should stay far away from HW !

  4. danielrchargers says:

    you mean Dana white Knows jon is a HW but wants him to keep winning against guys smaller than him so he has a PPV MEAL TICKET but also knows that eventually as he ages hell need to put on the weight so within that time has enough money to promote gay ass Rory MACdonald. the future holds alot of lame #1 promoted fighters.

    • AG says:

      How is rory a gay ass? Cause he finishes fights regularly and he’s young? Hahaha you’re terrible bro you shouldn’t even be aloud to have an opinion on anything.

      • danielrchargers says:

        the dudes a monster, i dont like him personally.
        dont be so heated to type back, buuut if you want to be king of the posts then be my guest child.

  5. JOSH Y says:

    I find it funny when keyboard talkers call people who get in the cage bitches. You wouldnt say that if you where in the octagon with you. Right now if he is walking at 230 he would be a small HW when you have frank mir topping the scale at 260’s.

    • danielrchargers says:

      i wil type that you are a fool. i dont think 95% of us are fighters, most of that have jobs are here on this site to criticize and converse.
      and by the way. how are you so sure Jon will be 230only? it takes a few years to actually put on legit solid (non water weight) muscle and by the time jons ready to go, and mark my words when hes ready to be a HW you will notice he is ready to be a heavy, bigger arms legs and torso. everything will double. the mans 6’4 will extreme limbs. no way that adds up to 230 only for a long term HW career.

      • danielrchargers says:

        you must be oblivious Josh. or just an MMA Jon Fan and thats all if you truly believe that when a fighter moves up in weight they dont add or drop anything from there frame, saying jon walks around at 230 and wil fight at 230? get real little man, hes gonna get YOLKED.

        • JOSH Y says:

          you can kiss my ass. Dude called him a bitch bc he wont fight people his own size now. Thats why they make weight limits. If he can make 205 right now whats the point in him going up? He isnt struggling with the weight cut so obviously he isnt that big. Could he fight right now at HW and most likely win some fights? yeah, i believe he could. And lets just say his next fight was at HW, he might gain something but its not going to be solid muscle and size. He will need time to adjust to gaining the weight properly.

        • danielrchargers says:

          the last part of your writing is exactly what i said…

        • squid says:

          weight and size are two very different things.

  6. Pijan says:

    Fighting isn’t supposed to be easy. You’re supposed to be challenging yourself. The way Jon Jones walks through these fighters is amazing, at the same time though, he is a huge mother fucker. He’s as tall as Dos Santos and has longer reach than anyone in the Heavyweight division. He’s over sized, he needs to fight people his own size. Not only will it make him more legit, it’ll make it more interesting. Even if he went undefeated and was known as one of the greatest fighters of all time, it wouldn’t really mean shit if he was dominating a division half his size. That’s like playing Madden on Rookie and claiming you’re the best player in the world. Or you know, like Boise State.

    • danielrchargers says:

      true true true. I will be a Bones fan when he moves to his natural weight class. but ill still have #1 Cain’s back!

      • K2 says:

        Shit. 60% of the fighters cut weight to fight in a lower weight class. Hell, we were trained to do it in wresting, and I bet it doesn’t change much for the pros. It’s not like he’s the only one ya know.

    • AG says:

      Yeah cause Anderson silva has moved up and stayed at lhw for so long…. Fuck outa here with that. Lhw is jones’ division and will be that way for awhile cause he’s so good and would still be good if he had a shorter reach.

      • Pijan says:

        I’m well aware of this. Anderson at least when competing at middleweight, is still the size of a middleweight, if not smaller. Jones is kind of like Corey Hill (if anyone remembers him), his figure looks freakish because you can tell he’s naturally a bigger weight class, and not just a few lbs like Silva, Jones, if he wanted to could probably hit 245-250 lbs, he wouldn’t be a Fedor at 225, he could be a full HW. Given he’d still have his reach advantage, I think he’d do good. And I am also well aware most fighters cut into smaller weight classes to do better, I’ve been bitching about this for a long time now, if you’re going to fight, do it naturally and fight where you should be against people your own size. Jones is just way over the usual margin, throw JDS, Cain, or Mir in LHW and they’d destroy the division too. Hell throw Carwin at 205 and he’d decimate everyone there.

      • squid says:

        at least anderson moved up and challenged himself.

    • Sam Garvin says:

      Amen Pijan. I do love the Boise State reference too. The point you made is the same shit I’ve been telling people for over a year. Even as skinny as he is, he still looks a weight class bigger than all the LHWs anyways, he might as well get his little chicken legs some muscle and move up to fight guys that are about his size. Then we could compare him to Anderson Silva.

    • squid says:

      exactly!

  7. jason says:

    Jones is fighting children right now haha. like the time Jones just put his hand on Shoguns head to keep him at distance haha

    • mean170 says:

      I’m not going to critisize someone for using their natural gifts in the cage, but it is crazy how if he ever thinks he’s in a bad spot he can just extend his arm and be 4 feet from his opponent.

  8. Cody says:

    Toltoaly agree and it’s his frame more than his girth that’s why he has little to no lower body if Jon does one training camp of real strength and conditioning he won’t be able to make weight at least comfortably and u can’t take away what he’s done but come on its getting old watching him fight guys who r a solid 20% smaller it’s like watching a d lineman in football fight a linebacker r safety it’s a huge advantage just move up dude

  9. K2 says:

    He could stand to put 15-20lbs of muscle in his little chicken legs when he does move up. It’d be a good idea for him anyways.

  10. AG says:

    I can’t believe all these haters talking about how JJ is too big for his division yet he cuts about the same weight as Georges or Anderson. Stop being so mad that he dominates everyone. I don’t hear anyone squawking this loud about Anderson or georges moving up!? Or even Ben Henderson who is a gigantic lw. So stupid people can’t just be happy for this guy and his dominance in what was once the most talent rich division before he came along….

    • danielrchargers says:

      where have you been? everyone wants GSP at 185, and Anderson to take more fights at 205. fucking Jones fans outa know where. and Benson’s already contemplated going to 170.

    • squid says:

      jon jones IS too big for the division. come on man. you gotta be a fool not to see that. it doesnt matter about the weight. its also the SIZE. not only the reach, but the fact opponents have to punch up at him! he dwarfs everybody he fights. damn right he dominates, he should be dominating. people act like hes doing something SOOO special. of course hes gonna win, its expected. like rogan said about penn vs gsp at ufc 94,” the bigger good man will always beat the smaller good man” 205 is no challenge for him hes got skills but id like to see him against bigger, or at least opponents the same size as he is. bj penn fought machida too, come on man!

  11. exit 8 says:

    So your waiting for the division to get stale. Hello he is fighting danny for the belt. If that isn’t stale, what is.

  12. Khanny says:

    Too big for LHW, but then he’d be one of the smallest HW’s.
    I wonder if he’ll have weight cutting issues later on?

    • squid says:

      not really. 6’4, 84in reach. jds 6’3. cain velasquez is only 6’0, pat barry is 5’11. roy nelson 6’0. even stefan struve has less reach than this guy and he’s like 6’8. he could bulk up easily. hes a physical freak. bj penn fought in HW come on man step it up

  13. Mr.Rusk says:

    Oh noes bones is tall and skinny, it’s so unfair to short thick people who weigh almost exactly the same amount.

  14. Darren says:

    I reckon Jones would dominate HW! The man is a freak and JDS wouldn’t know what’s hit him!

  15. MMAFAN says:

    Dana sounds like jones wouldn’t do as good at heavyweight. He probably wants jones to stay dominant.

  16. Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

    Cain, Pat Barry, Mark Hunt, JDS, Overeem, Mir, Cro Cop (if he were still in the UFC), Shane Carwin… All of these guys could give him problems at HW. Jones hasn’t felt the power and won’t feel the power till Hendo.

  17. Glenn J says:

    He’s gonna walk through Hendo and if Gustoffsons wrestling hasn’t improved, then he will get gnp’d. Jones might as well go to hw, so what if he only weighs 230, Randy Cotoure fought at about 220 and had the belt. He stands a chance at hw, but guys like Cain, Junior, Mir, and Carwin would give him problems…

    • Muaythai17-1 says:

      Cain, JDS, Mir, and Carwin…..are you serious…..? i’m no Bones bandwagon rider but this is how i see all those guys againsnt Jones:

      Cain’s wrestling is the only thing he’d have on Jones and newsflash…..Jones arms and legs would roll circles around Cain on the ground. I love Cain too, i think he will destroy JDS in the rematch, but Jones reach alone would cause more problems for Cain plus Jones wrestling is good and imagine him on his back if Cain does get him down? Gnp won’t exist with Jones long ass limbs….

      JDS hands are great for a HW, BUT Jones has a 7 and a half reach advantage, thats counts for defense as well….JDS couldn’t counter any fancy bs kicks or punches Jones throw, that score points. Bones would get the Unamamoius nod.

      Mir and Carwin….together they couldn’t beat Jones. Mir on his back, where he ends up a lot, with his size and strentgh advantage still wouldn’t be able to avoid the GnP of Jones, getting TKO’d. Carwin got owned by JDS in a stand up battle, Jones doesn’t have JDS boxing but his all around striking is better than JDS hands. Jones wouldn’t finish any of these guys, but he’d win IMO. Definitively…

      Alistair has the kicks to hurt Jones, and he could take anything Jones throws his way, same with all the other guys, BUT Oveerems strentgh is the only thing that would save him on the ground, but after 3 rounds Jones would put on a wreslting clinic on Alistair.

      I dont think Jones can KO or submit many, if any, HW’s but he would definitly hold the HW belt IMO.

  18. mike says:

    LOL at Daniel – damn noobs

  19. A.James says:

    He better get some power with his hands before he moves. Does he have a KO on his record?

  20. Mikzi says:

    Even if jones entered HV he would still be one of tallest and still longest reach.. People keep complaining he walks around at 230 and too light.. I don’t recall R.Gracie complaining abt competing people double his size.. Besides with his frame he can easily wack another 10pounds or so

  21. Truth says:

    Ay Dude, shut up. Jon Jones IS simply TO BIG and TO STROGN for LHW.
    Jon Jones = OVERSIZED and OVERPOWERED cowarad who is fighting SMALLER and WEAKER OPPONENTS !!

    And let me tell you something. There are big and weak guys (Freakshow) and there are big and strong guys (Jon jones). Not any tall guy is as strong. THAST THE POINT. And it’s not about weight either. You can wiegh the same or EVEN MORE BUT STILL be LOT WEAKER !!!

    You are just defending Jon jones because you know this is TheTruth !!!

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