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Wednesday, 04/18/2012, 09:09 am

Chael Sonnen Defends Overeem | "Alistair Overeem did not test positive for anything. End of story."

“Congratulations to MMA media, right when I think you’re incompetence can’t get to any higher level, the Alistair Overeem story comes out. You kids on the interweb, running your little ‘dot com’s’ from the couch in your mother’s basement, you beneficiaries of Mark Cuban’s tax write-off, you’ve gone and screwed up the Alistair Overeem case, beyond belief. Is it repairable? I doubt it.”

“Hey. If I’m a member of the media and someone tells me that Alistair Overeem failed a drug test, the very first thing I’m going to say is: ‘Really? What substance did he test positive for?’ Now, you see, those basic questions are where the wheels begin to fall off the bus to this entire story. Alistair Overeem did not test positive for anything. End of story. So why is his name getting drug through the mud? Why are they saying, ‘Well, he’s got an elevated T-to-E ratio. Ok, fair enough. Let’s say his T-to-E ratio is outside the norm. That’s not illegal. That’s outside the norm. That’s a red flag. That is a red flag, and Alistair will owe an explanation. If it’s not against the rules, why are we having this conversation? MMA Media: Ya failed! It reminds me of a time when Ronald Reagan was President, and somebody in his cabinet had to stand trial. He gets acquitted and he says, ‘Well, great. I’ve won the trial, but who do I see to get my reputation back?”

Chael Sonnen has his say on the Overeem situation while doing his usual spot on “Chael’s Corner” on “UFC Tonight”

Not all were in agreement with Sonnen’s defense of Overeem with Kenny Florian (co-host for “UFC Tonight”) disagreeing with the Middleweight number one contender.

“If you have common sense, you realize that is not a normal ratio. A male’s normal ratio of testosterone-to-epitestosterone is 1-to-1. You have the Nevada State Athletic Commission that allows you to have a 6-to-1 ratio. Overeem’s ratio is 14-to-1. How does it get there? Did it just happen, out of the blue? Is this guy just more superhuman than everybody else out there? No. That’s happening because he’s taking something. Alright? That’s the only way you get there. You know, we’d all love to take this stuff. But what it does is, it gives you an unfair advantage because you can train harder, you can train longer, you can recover faster. To me, maybe I can get another 20 fights under my belt if I take this stuff, but I can’t. I’m not going to use it to fight another human. I think it’s unfair. Something’s going on there. At the end of the day, there is going to be a legal meeting to determine whether Overeem fights or not. But, it’s obvious — he’s taking something. “

Both men make valid points, Do you as a fan see the Overeem Dos Santos bout going ahead & is it fair ?


81 Responses to “Chael Sonnen Defends Overeem | "Alistair Overeem did not test positive for anything. End of story."”

  1. Marc says:

    Can’t help but read this in Chaels voice lol ….. He’s kinda right thought to an extent

    • Null says:

      Only he isn’t right, I hate to say it but Kenny Florian is actually correct. His levels are there because he took something, just because you didn’t catch the something in his system, common sense states he needed to do some sort of checmicals to get him to that point. It’s not like he was a point over, he was over double what is permitted.

      A good example would be, if you had to drive a hundred miles to get from A to B, if you get there in an hour, everyone knows you drove 100mph to get there, even if you weren’t caught by a poilce officer, you can tell with common sense how he got there in the time he did. Again, common sense.

      Everyone knows this guys been juicing since 2005 at least, the only people who doubt it are his fans and other fighters who juice. When did common sense stop being common?

    • John says:

      He is absolutely right. He did not test positive but he is also not innocent. Just because they didnt catch the drug doesnt mean he didnt take them, the elevated testosterone is the evidence. The body shows effects long after the causing event. Someone has a heart attack they will still have scar tissue on their heart and enzymes released that can be detected a while down the road. Same deal with PEDs. The drug may flush through the system but the hormone sits in the system much longer.

  2. if only says:

    I could get a flight out to oregon I would shoot some buckshot into this frauds face..He’s as fake as they get, a professional liar.

    • Not You says:

      Too bad he’d power double you and smash your fce until you beg him to stop.

      • Xaninho says:

        With buckshot in his face?

        • Bobby says:

          Well your probably right buckshot to the face> Chael power double, but then you would go to jail for murder and end up getting power doubled in your backdoor in prison.

        • Devin G says:

          Hey would just go Super Sayan and kill us all, because he is THE Chael Sonnen, beat him if you can

        • Xaninho says:

          I live in Holland inmates are not gay here.

        • Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

          Not publicly anyways. LOL You serious there aren’t any butt buddies in Holland jails? Or do they have strict policies for the perpetrators that rape their fellow inmates?

          Just like in Iran they say they have no gay people. YEAH RIGHT! LOL They don’t want to get stoned like the emo kids in Iraq (also percieved as gay behavior)!

          Go to jail in the USA you might leave with two assholes.

    • James Troy says:

      the truth hurts. you can hide in your ignorant shell and call him a liar because u cant handle the truth but that doesnt make him a liar. it makes you an ignorant douche. deal with it.

  3. Derek Q says:

    Don’t know why anyone bothers with this guy says anything for attention ! Also dude above me get off Chaels d**k

  4. Derek Q says:

    Not Xaninho the not you guy !

  5. Derek Q says:

    I get it you love Chael we all get it !

  6. Not You says:

    Again, I never said I love Chael. But keep running with what you’ve got I guess. If it makes you feel better I will be “that guy” for you.

  7. Kelly says:

    Florian has a good head on his shoulders if only we could say the same for sonnen

  8. Ron says:

    It’s a farce to think they are not all taking it.

  9. That it gurl says:

    14:1 come on !!!!! What are you Overeem the Russian from rocky? Do it right or get out! On the real though I still think Dos Santos would beat him.

  10. Jay kenefic says:

    I bet he would love to join Overeem in a good old fashioned lady beat as well. “You know somtimes women get out if line, and they need to be shown the line”…in Troll Sonnen voice.

  11. vincejai says:

    Sonnen makes sense in the way that… when we don’t know we shouldn’t judge. The public has often swayed professional judgement, and has paid the toll.

    E.g. the Case of Casey Anthony.

    Without valid evidence, the public cried in outrage and demanded the most punishment possible. The feds, going with the public, decided to throw the 1st degree charge on her… but she was acquitted of those charges due to the lack of evidence.

    The public fucked it up for the case. This is a reverse example. Under that premise yes it does make sense, is fair to think like that.

    BUT, the moron ignores what the evidence suggests, which is the point and case in Kenflo’s argument.

    Allisteroid Overdose, isn’t superhuman, and its more fishy that he has not released an official statement, which he should have done immediately.

    • Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

      Well what we do know is that he tested 14-1 levels of testosterone failing the limits of the test. He doesn’t have an exemption for his TRT if that is what he’s on. He is abusing whatever he is on Steroids or TRT. Come on! He looks like the black incredible hulk.

      You forgot to mention the mother lied about the Chloroform searches, the jury didn’t like the new tech evidence and that they overcharged for the evidence they had (not unlike the George Zimmerman/Trayvon case). The jury thinks we live in the same universe of CSI where all of the evidence is laid out neat and nicely. She was guilty of something and if you can get Al Capone you can get Casey Anthony.

  12. Alistair overeem says:

    Bitch please I didn’t test positive for any PED:s end of story.

  13. Silvas scared says:

    Anyone else wondering why 6:1 is legal? If normal is 1:1 how did NSAC come up with 6:1? Also let’s not be ignorant you can’t test for synthetic Testosterone in any form in a human because Testosterone is a naturally produced chemical, so they test LEVELS. High levels = exdrogenous testosterone use. Nice try Chael, I’m a fan but don’t talk like we are all stupid. Well done KenFlo

  14. Kingron84 says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Overeem has a 3rd brother who appeared as the head Marine in A Few good Men?

  15. M says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Chael is only defending Allistair so that he can downplay his own Steroid use?

    Liste, PED’s come in so many forms we can’t possibly test for all forms. You don’t have a testosterone level 16x higher than average without using. Clearly both Chael and Allistair used PEDs…

    I hope JDS agrees to fight anyways, and take 1/2 allistairs purse

  16. Aaron Davis says:

    Why isn’t anyone talking about Horse Meat? Its not against any rules is it? Wouldn’t this be the obvious source of the elevated testosterone levels?

  17. Doesn't matter says:

    If the ratio of 1:1 is normal and they are allowed to fight with a 6:1 ratio then that means every fighter testin more then 1:1 had to have taken something. It doesn’t matter if he didn’t test positive for anything he hasent taken anything. I’d love for all you haters to go up to Allistar and tell him he’s taken something and see what happens. I bet you wouldn’t fair out too well.

    • David Pumphrey says:

      They just shouldnt do drugs like simple as u take drugs bar weed get out of ufc any sport at all

    • Silvas scared says:

      You are a fucking retard. It’s not being a hater shitstain it’s unfair and dangerous. I’m sure you wouldn’t mind AT ALL signing up to fight someone with the same skill set as you with 16 times the test level. Testosterone boosts strength, speed, stamina etc etc. Of course we wouldnt fair well against Reem he’s a roided out professional fighter! PS start paying your mom rent, I’m sure she didn’t expect to have you in her basement past 30 years old.

      • to silvas scared says:

        testorone goes down as you get older.,. that is a fact… plane and simple… but plane and simple you do not take testorone and magically become world champion… he still goes to the gym everyday and works out.. granted it helps you recover, but it does not work unless you work out.. he put in his time and so did alot of other fighters. JDS still says he will fight him… plane and simple there are too many out of shape hypocrits out there that act like they have ever worked out or trained… all of the writers are writers for a reason, they are good at it. they are not athletes. they have never had a injury more than a broken nail. america and the world are a bunch of hypocrits. Testorone does not do shit if you do not work out.. get that through your head…

        • Silvas scared says:

          Yes your right Testosterone isn’t a performance enhancer at all. Hell why is it even illegal? It’s like taking an Asprin In the AM. Test makes you stronger (hit harder) faster ( hit faster ) increases stamina, reduces recovery periods ( in between rounds). Your right though I have no idea how these things would benefit a fighter. Of course he still has to train but the juice makes him bigger, faster, stronger.

        • doesnt matter says:

          how the hell does testosterone make you hit harder that is the stupidest thing ive ever heard

        • Big Boi says:

          Ok so not everman has a 1:1 ratio some men have 3:1 or 4:1 everyone is different it’s just 1:1 is the average male ratio…and he is not using PEDs he obviously doing TRT testosterone replacement therapy. Because when a man gets older his lvls drop…but for your lvl to be 14:1 you must be injecting the test daily instead of once a week…he may not be taking PEDs but he is still cheating!

        • Not You says:

          Just so you know lean body mass increase in those who use steroids and sit on the couch. That’s how elevated testosterone works in the body. There are studies that show this to be true. Plain and simple.

  18. Breno says:

    Chael Sonnen is the Steroids Embassador!!!!!

  19. Gman says:

    Ofcourse another Cheat is gonna look at things this way

  20. A. Chung says:

    What do you expect a fucking roid user to say? Of course the fucking bastard is going to defend Overeem. Chaels is defending Overeem’s high T/E ratio because this way he can defend his own T/E ratio when it shows up high again. Since his next fight is outside the US his T/E ratio won’t be high (will have time to cycle down and he will not be randomly tested). However, the next time he fights in the US there will always be a chance that they will nab him so he is getting his excuses ready by first defending people like Overeem. What a Douch! On principal alone, I will not watch any UFC event that features Chaels.

  21. bigal says:

    Wasn’t sonen suspended for having hight testosterone levels? He had some lame excuse for that also. Don’t get me wrong im a huge overeem fan but kennyflorian is 100% right.

  22. DMAC says:

    I agree with chael p.

    He’s doing nothing illegal and its nothing different then any trt user in MMA. He does have to explain but chalk it up to trt treatment and move on.

  23. mike says:

    What is a joke is that we have sports like ufc, baseball ,football being looked at alot by everyone on drug use and how it shouldn’t be in sports, and it shouldn’t. But you can look at a body building mag and see dudes that are on all kinds of stuff and no one talks about that. If we are going to get on sports figures about drug use get on them all or shut the fk up.

  24. Calabama says:

    You just know Overeem is somewhere saying, “Fuck, Chael is defending me? Now no one will ever believe me. “

  25. Chael Sonnen says:

    I took them as PEDs and what??? It was the only way to get close to beating silva. I’m still the champ!!

  26. slacker says:

    Shut up Chael Sonnen. This is all self – serving BS.

  27. Silvas scared says:

    My fucking head is going to explode from the stupidity. YOU CAN’T TEST FOR TESTOSTERONE! IT’S A NATURALLY PRODUCED HORMORNE! ELEVATED LEVELS IS THE POSITIVE TEST FOR EXDROGENOUS ( coming from outside the body ) TESTOSTERONE USE! And 14:1 is PROOF OF TRT ABUSE! Wake the fuck up!

  28. Nick says:

    They’re right in their on senses. Allistair didn’t test positive for a substance. He just tested high. And Florian is right in the sense that he probably took something to get the T:E levels that high. Anyway, I’m pretty sure the fight will be on.

  29. TJ says:

    If this fight does go on, how is it fair to JDS to fight someone that he knows is or was taking PED’s? JDS doesn’t take any, so why is it fair to match him up against someone that clearly does?

  30. Ikua75 says:

    I fu@k’n hate people that can’t naturally compete. It’s like they are scared to become
    normal like me. It’s gonna be all worth it when AO get’s his jaw wired after a vicious over hand right from JDS. “Let’s get it on!”

  31. Faulty says:

    Are u guys retarded cheal wasn’t on steroids at all what he was doing was completely legal and he still does it till this day it was just a hoax the media blew out of proportion

    • Calvin says:

      16:1 isnt blown out of proportion

    • Xaninho says:

      Between 1:1 and 6:1 is legal. The 16:1 ratio that Sonnen was boosting is not legal dummy.

    • Kingsforge says:

      Just because you obtain the substance legally doesn’t make it ok to abuse the f**k out of it. Saying he needs TRT because he has low testosterone then failing a test with the levels of 16 average men don’t exactly mix…

      Seriously some people just believe anything they’re told. It’s called ‘putting a spin’ on something, you get someone good with words and they can pretty much make anything sound like it’s ok. Read between the lines and ignore the bullshit. Chael was practically sweating testosterone (and he still got owned by Silva, who quite clearly doesn’t take anything)

  32. Galveston Texas MMA Fan says:

    Any CHEATER or (Juicer) like Chael would say that…. I was a Chael Sonnen fan back then when he didnt talk as much trash as he does now guy be yourself and not a promotor if so work at zuffa…..but Anderson Silva is gonna whoop his ass this time via KO…I promise yall that!!!Oh yea but back on Alistar its your ass kid….Dos Santos KO via round 1….JDS all the way….Cheaters never win why you think there just contenders….We need more straight shooters like GSP!!!Guy knows diet and how much supplements to take….And if any one say’s gsp is a boring fighter your not a MMA fan you just wanna see KO’s in that case buy ultimate knockout dvds and quit posting dumb comments

    • GET RID OF FITCH (forever) says:

      Actually most MMA fans are quite convinced GSP has been on the best PED’s money can buy for years. Someday someone from GSP’s innner circle will get the boot and do a tell all about all the HGH and designer steroids (FALCO-Barry Bonds) that only the very wealthy like GSP can afford. Yep everyone thought Lance Armstrong was clean until Floyd Landus spilled the beans to world about Armstrongs blood transfusions nite before the tests and EPO’s. That one fighter who trains with Dan Hendersen who just retired bald polish expierment stated 90% of all MMA fighters are on some type of PED. Yep there are very few BJ penns (CLEAN) left in sport MMA.

      • DJ says:

        How the fuck do you speak for ‘most mma fans’? Are you basing this accusation on a poll taken asking mma fans if they think GSP has ever taken anything? If not then shut the fuck up you idiot.

    • Joseph PWNY says:

      not only is gsp the most boring fighter in the company after fitch. he is also one of the most obvious juicers. how are those salty french nuts going for you? ufc fanboy haha

    • Kelly says:

      If u think GSP is clean ur from delusional. He definitely has the right doctors. Just ask BJ’s opinion on the gsp using subject. But who cares. If they use it’s a personal choice. I don’t think it should matter. When u train as hard as a professional athlete. You need something to assist with injuries and the prevention there of. You guys need to read a book, hit the gym understand what y’all are talking before you start discussing a subject you have no business discussing.

      • nate says:

        everyone is entitled to there own opinion some should keep it to there selves . like its up to the individual if they want to juice (cheat) that my friend is not the case it is wrong . sammy sosa ,mark maguire

    • A.James says:

      My beef with GSP is that he doesn’t live up to his own hype. That guy trains to be the perfect fighter and has the PR of a saint. He hasn’t finished anyone since “grease gate”. His performances have been dull especially when compared to Anderson Silva’s.

  33. Tom A says:

    Sonnen love to get attention by going against the grain would love to see how he reacted when no one gave him the time Of day

  34. Ninja Oreo Dollop says:

    Does anyone know the levels of the other fighters?

  35. I can’t wait for Silva to KO him. Loser leaves town Sonnen.

  36. Gabriel says:

    TRT is allowed, i don’t endorse TRT but it’s allowed based on the current rules. Ideally TRT will be disallowed in the future and PED testing will be more effective to curb cheating. I don’t hold TRT use against chael et al coz’ commisions/mma leagues allow it.

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